[Jack07231]

I once did a 6.6L Duramax oil filter shootout. The M1 filter was horribly made.

AHHHHHHHH!!! I have a Mobil 1 M1 filter on my Traverse right now. I didn't go into the details of these filters like you did in your Duramax Shootout (Great article by the way). With Mobil 1 being a superior oil I also assumed (yeah, I know) these would be better built oil filters. I hope they corrected their mistakes!! I still prefer Wix XP's, but I could not get one when I changed my oil so I bought the Mobil 1.

 

[Jack07231]

A question: The ACDELCO UPF63R filter was designed for the High Feature V6 due to the higher oil pressure for the internal engine design. I have found in more than one place that they are NOT a recommended replacement filter for the 2022 and 2023 Traverse 3.6L. What is the difference? Why did my 2019 3.6L come with a standard PF63 if the UPF63R was designed for the engine in that vehicle - also the dealer replaced the original PF63 with another PF63 on an oil change.

 

[AlisoBob]

I hope they corrected their mistakes!!

I'm sure they have..... BUT...... If a handful of member shoot me $8, I'll do a "Traverse Oil Filter Shootout" !!!!

 

[repairman54]

UPF has a higher bypass pressure than the PF.
I've been running them in my '16 3.6 'nox for over 50k miles and 30k miles in my Traverse. Nothings blown up yet nor do I expect to have any issues.

 

[Jack07231]

UPF has a higher bypass pressure than the PF.
I've been running them in my '16 3.6 'nox for over 50k miles and 30k miles in my Traverse. Nothings blown up yet nor do I expect to have any issues.

Do you have any idea why the UPF is not recommended for the ‘22 and ‘23 3.6L?

 

[repairman54]

Do you have any idea why the UPF is not recommended for the ‘22 and ‘23 3.6L?

I think because of the higher bypass pressure. Also the Traverse is not considered a high-performance vehicle like the Camaro so no performance reference.
The UPF is not a listed filter for any of my 3.6 motors but I use it. Run one on my 6.2 also.

 

[AlisoBob]

The ACDELCO UPF63R filter was designed for the High Feature V6 due to the higher oil pressure for the internal engine design.

From GM

 

[Jack07231]

Thank you repairman and AlisoBob for your feedback. Here is what Rockauto shows. When I saw Acadia, I wondered why not Traverse, but from the GM Service Information it's only "LGX" and "LWG" RPO's not LFY, although just a better filter than what is required for the LFY engine. Acadia uses the LGX V6.

 

[AlisoBob]

Everyone needs to keep in mind..... that the "Best Oil Filter" is really a question of what's the "Best Air Filter"...... which is how all the small micron stuff gets into the engine in the first place.

The worst air filter? Hands down, and of the oily gauze filters like K and N.

The Best? I only run the AC Delco or WIX.

 

[AlisoBob]

Here's some more info to think over..... there is a growing trend for "Max Life" oil filters..... but something has to give. If a filter is designed to last longer, it has to pull out less trash to keep it from plugging up, right? I just emailed Purolator, and they back this simple fact up. The "BOSS" is their expensive long life filter. The "One" is their cheaper filter. Here are the facts..... direct from Mann Hummel, the makers of the Purolator line of filters.

" Hi Bob, here are the Micron and Efficiency numbers you requested.

The PBL22500 BOSS is 99% efficient at 46 microns. Life expectancy is 15,000 miles

PL22500 ONE is 99% efficient at 25 micron. Life expectancy is 10,000 miles.

Thank you for your interest.

Mann+Hummel Product Information

Product Information (800) 526-4250)

MANN+HUMMEL Filtration Technology, 1 Wix Way, Gastonia, NC, USA"

Given the choice , I'm going to run the PL22500 ONE Filter!!!!

 

[AlisoBob]

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT TRUE!!!!

 

[Jack07231]

Excellent!!!! Typical Marketing B. S. !! They didn’t even mention the 20k filter. You need to read the fine print. I’ll admit, I don’t always but at 68 years old, this old dog is still learning new tricks. Not specifically in this case with oil filters, but in other daily life things. Been screwed a few times by trusting a brand name.

 

[cintocrunch]

Maybe if I was driving 30k+ a year I'd care, but I've always stuck to the 5k oil change. I like doing the work.

 

[AlisoBob]

From Purolator.....

 

[Jack07231]

That is not what they advertise.

 

[jadehaley17601]

The Percolator One is a decent filter.

 

[Watthour]

Like some other members have posted, I'm using the OEM PF63, albeit the "long" version instead of the factory-installed shortie. I'll be doing that until the powertrain warranty has expired, and with the purchased extended warranty, GM will be on the hook for 100K with no quibbles. Oil is Mobil1 Dexos 1/Gen 3 approved.

 

[AlisoBob]

Mann Hummel also makes WIX filters, and do the exact same thing as with the Purolator filters...

The standard WIX filter is a good filter. (25 micron at 98% efficiency)

The more expensive WIX XP is terrible. It's basiclly a rock catcher, that's rated for 20,000 mile OCI's. (45 micron at 98% efficiency)

 

[RandyMan]

Both Amsoil and Mobil 1 claim their oil filters can last 15,000 miles (severe service), can we just change the oil and keep the filter on?

My answer is Yes (using an Amsoil filter). I keep the filter on and just change the oil. I can get 2 changes per filter since I don't put many miles on the car currently. My 2 changes are in one 12 month period, around 8k-9k miles total. The oil left in the filter is not enough to worry me personally. The better filtration is worth it to me, especially with VVT.

That costs me $20US a year for the filter, and around $60US for the oil.

I used to do 3k mile intervals and change both filter and oil using a cheaper filter (Cheapest Fram filter of all things) on other vehicles. I have since seen too many Fram filter vidoes with the filter coming apart. GM even had a bulletin showing parts of the orange "rubber" from the filters lodged in oil galleys and passages destroying engines. Warranty denied on those failures. I now use what I consider the best filter after considering what it costs to replace the engine.

I will get an oil analysis with my upcoming oil change and see what the lab says.

• If it is worse than I expect then I will change the filter every time going forward.
• If things are looking good then I'll continue as before.

-RandyMan
2019 Traverse 62k miles

 

[superdave]

My answer is Yes (using an Amsoil filter). I keep the filter on and just change the oil. I can get 2 changes per filter since I don't put many miles on the car currently. My 2 changes are in one 12 month period, around 8k-9k miles total. The oil left in the filter is not enough to worry me personally. The better filtration is worth it to me, especially with VVT.

That costs me $20US a year for the filter, and around $60US for the oil.

I used to do 3k mile intervals and change both filter and oil using a cheaper filter (Cheapest Fram filter of all things) on other vehicles. I have since seen too many Fram filter vidoes with the filter coming apart. GM even had a bulletin showing parts of the orange "rubber" from the filters lodged in oil galleys and passages destroying engines. Warranty denied on those failures. I now use what I consider the best filter after considering what it costs to replace the engine.

I will get an oil analysis with my upcoming oil change and see what the lab says.

• If it is worse than I expect then I will change the filter every time going forward.
• If things are looking good then I'll continue as before.

-RandyMan
2019 Traverse 62k miles

Great. Please update after your oil analysis is done. I always wonder why change the oil filter if the manufacturers claim they are that good.