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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 05-30-2019, 08:41 PM Thread Starter
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2019 Traverse weak brakes

Curious if everyone thinks that the brake feeling on these new Traverses are weak or not? I came from a 2017 Traverse and the feeling is much weaker on the new one. Just seems like I have to push down more to get the truck to stop. After week in of "owning" the Traverse I drove my son's 2019 Kia Optima and that car has very responsive brakes. Granted it's a smaller vehicle but the feeling just gives one much more confidence in stopping. Switching back to the Traverse I felt like I had 200K on the original brakes. It actually feels dangerous. I called the dealer and asked about this and they said that the new Traverse uses a new vacuum brake system and may not be as responsive as the older Traverse. I actually scheduled an appt at the dealer to take a look but cancelled. Figured I'll ask you guys/gals to see if this is the feeling everyone else is experiencing.
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I have not noticed the brakes to be weak. Compared to our 2012 Outback, which had really weak breaks, these are nice. Also, don't confuse brake peddle effort with brake performance. Needing a bit more pressure on the pedal isn't bad, I don't like super touchy brakes. That said, these seem average.
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I've noticed no difference whatsoever in stopping effort between my '15 and the '18, or the different weight class '18 Malibu, or the '16 Silverado for that matter! Indicative of well designed GM systems with the proper amount of pedal assist effort to modulate brake pressure throughout safe stopping distances.



And low effort braking or sensitive braking is definitely not good braking. Discovered by many in the 60's where all you needed was your big toe stop a 3 ton behemoth as advertised...."on a dime". In operation a quick push in an emergency caused skidding usually resulted in placing a steering wheel dent in the drivers head with passengers kissing the metal dash or the windshield! (Probably why most driver wore hats in those pre-seatbelt days...helped to cushion the blow when you hit a sudden bump and your head hit the roof.)



Let's not confuse weak brakes with weak feet or poor driving habits:


It's normal for brakes on a new vehicle to require more effort to stop until pads are broken in and make final contact with 100% of their surface area upon the rotors. Repeated hard stops on new linings in a foolish attempt to seat them faster will only result in glazing and hardening the pads, ruining them resulting in longer lasting, sometimes squeaky pads requiring more stopping effort.


Also the valve action on new VVT engines develops less available vacuum the induction system for a sufficient full time supply to the power booster under all driving conditions, especially when pumping or riding the brake chews up the reserve. Even the Traverse's electrical vacuum assist pump to supplement reduced engine vacuum may not be able to compensate for poor driving habits. (A faulty assist pump could also cause the feeling of harder braking, but such failure would pop up an accompanying DIC information message)


I find the comparison of the new Traverse to a Kia funny because I just test drove a bunch of them.......it's good to be retired with time on my hands. Seems KIA currently made the mistake of offering $50 bucks for taking test rides..... like a red flag to a bull.....filled out two for the two addresses and made $100 bucks spending a day breaking ba!!s at two dealerships plus tanked up the Silvy with cheap out of State gas and myself with free coffee. Test road all their "top line" stuff including Optimas and Santa Fe Ultimate XLs. Kias....found their braking systems easy to modulate and less effective in comparison, but these were new vehicles with "green" linings.



Also noted Kias are cheaper than their similarly equipped big three counterparts....for a reason....as F. Gump would say "cheap is as cheap does"!

Think I'll throw their $100 toward purchase of a lighted bowtie for the Silvy.

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To the original poster, I was thinking the same thing. Been driving a 2016 then 2019 Ford Edge, brakes are a touch grabby at slow (driveway) speeds, but smooth and responsive at normal speeds. 2008 Caddy STS, drives and stops with authority. 2009 GMC Yukon Hybird. Big heavy car stops as you would expect with standard pedal effort.

2019 Traverse, 5000miles.. It feels like you need more foot to stop "normally" I always seem to not decelerate as much as i would expect with the pedal effort. So I agree that they feel like they don't brake well, in reality, if you stand on it, it stops.. Just need to train myself to use a little more foot!

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To the original poster, I was thinking the same thing. Been driving a 2016 then 2019 Ford Edge, brakes are a touch grabby at slow (driveway) speeds, but smooth and responsive at normal speeds. 2008 Caddy STS, drives and stops with authority. 2009 GMC Yukon Hybird. Big heavy car stops as you would expect with standard pedal effort.

2019 Traverse, 5000miles.. It feels like you need more foot to stop "normally" I always seem to not decelerate as much as i would expect with the pedal effort. So I agree that they feel like they don't brake well, in reality, if you stand on it, it stops.. Just need to train myself to use a little more foot!
Exactly my experience. Ok, seems like "As Designed" I guess.
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I have similar experiences as the original poster. Now at 7 months with 6,000 miles on a 2019. At low speeds, brakes are difficult to modulate/grabby and for the first time, wife complains of me making abrupt stops at stop signs and lights. At speed, it doesnít slow down as expected and have to really press down when needing only moderate slowing down from 50mph with only me in the vehicle without cargo. Had better performance with a 99 CRV with rear drum brakes or a slightly larger moving truck or a loaded Toyota Sienna. Would be interested to find out if anybody has tried switching to a different brake pad type and have noticed any difference. Are the original brakes ceramic?
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I donít think the brakes are week but I have found that they seem to heat up fast and then donít perform that well. Worse in the heat. Drove though Death Valley last August and it was 120į out and the hills were hard to deal with.
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I donít think the brakes are week but I have found that they seem to heat up fast and then donít perform that well. Worse in the heat. Drove though Death Valley last August and it was 120į out and the hills were hard to deal with.
Several car reviews said the same, that the car's brakes were overheating on prolonged use, such as in downhill descents. That they recommended downshifting and using engine braking to relieve the heat and stress on the brakes.
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Several car reviews said the same, that the car's brakes were overheating on prolonged use, such as in downhill descents. That they recommended downshifting and using engine braking to relieve the heat and stress on the brakes.


This is what I end up doing just sucks since you have to come out of cruse for it work properly. Also always been a fan of using consumable items to slow down (rotors and pads) rather than the engine.
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What is the diameter on the rear rotor on the gen2. I know that the gen 1 are 13 inches diameter but cannot find the specifications on the gen 2. I was parked beside a 2018 at the shopping center last week and they seemed smaller in size but cannot confirm 100%.

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