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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 01-17-2019, 09:26 AM Thread Starter
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2019 Reluctant Potential Buyer Questions

Hi Folks. I'm contemplating my next car purchase and the Traverse keeps popping back up as a possible choice between the Toyota Highlander and Subaru Ascent. Each of course has it's pluses and minuses and I'm struggling between them. Perhaps you can answer or comment on the following items, providing insight that will help me.



2019 Traverse Ground Clearance: Can't find that figure anywhere. I'm in Maine, snow is deep and my driveway is a half-mile long, it's important.


Resale Value: I've compared my current 2014 Touring Odyssey value to a 2014 loaded Traverse and Highlander. (Cant compare the Ascent as it's a new model). I wanted to get an idea of what I'll have when I'm ready to move on. The Traverse tanks in this area at $19,000. The Highlander Limited is $25,000 and the Highlander Hybrid is $27,000. HUGE difference. I'm struggling with the idea of passing up on hugely better resale value. I'm used to getting top dollar either by trade or private sale. The idea of losing out by going with a Chevy gives me much angst. American car quality and reliability simply doesn't compare to Japanese made cars.





Honda is not in the running for me this round as the quality just isn't there in my Odyssey and it appears the Pilot is no better so I'm not considering it.



Speaking of reliability: Toyota wins, hands down. It appears there are potential issues with the 2019 Traverse transmission? Electrical? I don't want those headaches and I simply don't have time for them.


Subaru has that awesome reliable AWD. But is has the dreaded CVT transmission that makes me run for hills.


The Traverse and Ascent have apple car-play. The Highlander has a sub-par awful Entune. Surely it's just a gizmo, but a gizmo I find I use ALOT in my summer convertible. But my wallet keeps reminding me...resale, resale, Hylander, Hylander! 2019 Hylander Platinum has some issues with voice navigation and the Traverse has a great radio and nav system. But my wallet....


Space: The Traverse wins here, no doubt. The Hylander 3rd row is definitely lacking and likely not usable by my teen and pre-teen kids. I'm back there sometimes in the Odyssey depending on our outing and if Grandma tags along. Likely only possible in the Ascent and Traverse.


Does it bother anyone that the 2019 rearview mirror is extra dark when not using the rear-camera view? Just something I saw in a you-tube review.


How is visibility in the Traverse? I believe the Ascent wins here. The rear isn't all tapered like most new cars are these days. Maybe not be swanky, but sure is better for the driver.


I thank you for any and all opinion, encouragement that you care to share.
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I can only give my opinion on the ground clearance. The Traverse win hands up over all others. The only thing that prevent a total clear clearance is the front skirt. It can act as a partial snow plow. For the room inside you cannot beat the Traverse also compared with all the rest. I know that Hyundai, Kia and the new Ford Explorer 2020 are coming with a bigger than ever new vehicles soon.

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I own a 2018 Traverse Redline and drive a 2018 Toyota Highlander at work. The ride comfort in the Traverse is no doubt better. Traverse is much more quieter on the highway. Someone on this Forumn complained about the wind noise from the Traverse, however, I find the wind noise on the Highlander much more. Transmission: Highlander seems to always be hunting for gears and the shifting is not as smooth as the Traverse. I consistently get over 30mpg on the highway with the Traverse and has a larger fuel tank. I have no regrets owning the Traverse so far with over 10,000 kilometres. No issues at all with the transmission or any electronics.
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The Highlander was one of my choices early last year when I was just doing research. But for the price, it just didn't offer the space I needed for my family. The 3rd row in the Highlander is pretty useless. I wouldn't say you could load the Traverse with 7 adults comfortably, but it fits my kids (5, 7 and 9) and still offers plenty of usable storage room.

I don't think there's any question that Toyotas hold their value. No contest there. But to get an equally equipped Highlander, you're alot more money out the door up front than a Traverse too. My pocket book didn't allow for that extra splurge. I was able to get everything I wanted and needed in my Traverse without giving myself a financial heart attack.

I love the rearview mirror. I've used it in regular mode and did not find it to be dark. It worked just fine as a mirror. I prefer it with the video screen though because it gives me more visibility to what is going on around me and as such, makes me feel safer driving the vehicle.

I also really like the Top Down View when parking. I use that solely to park my vehicle now wherever I happen to be parking. That way I know I'm centered between the lines, all the way in the spot and have enough clearance around me. Fantastic feature.

Having said that, I don't think the rear visibility in the Traverse is great if you're just looking over your shoulder to back up, change lanes, etc. I find it difficult to see anything. I depend greatly on that rear view mirror video, backup camera, front camera and the side mirror indicators that tell me if someone or something is in or near any blind spots. With these additional features, I don't worry about poor visibility because I can always tell what is going on around me.

I'm unsure about the ground clearance. It's honestly not something I looked into or considered. We live in the northern burbs of Chicago and get our fair share of snow. I've only had the Traverse since December 8th. 2,600 miles later it's still driving great. The AWD handled well in the snow we had last weekend. We're expecting more this weekend, so I'll get it out there and test it some more.

Only you can make the decision for yourself. Hopefully the insight you gain from this forum helps you make the best one for you and your family. Good luck!

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MSWEBRAVEN: Thank you for sharing your experience with the Traverse. It is very helpful for me. The lack of usable seating in the 3rd row of the highlander is likely what will send me to the Traverse, despite the resale downfall. Why have a great resale on a car that's not functional for our family, right? Thanks for the mirror insight as well, it's very helpful.
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Vancouver Redline: Your experience with both vehicles is fantastically helpful. I appreciate your time and insight. I'm definitely leaning towards the Traverse. Thanks for your help.
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Capucine Thanks for your opinion. Sounds like the ground clearance will be a non-issue compared to the Ascent and the Highlander. I was considering waiting for the 2020 Highlander in hopes that it might be larger and have Apple car-play on board. But my Odyssey would be that much older and have less value for trade or private sale. The Odyssey has had rear-end clunks when slowing almost to a stop (at a light) and then accelerating since we got it. Dealer says nothing is wrong but surely it's only a matter of time before my baby-ing it won't help. It also has had spark-knocks since it was new and a new "sucking sound" from the engine has emerged when climbing a hill. It only has 39K miles....It's paid for so time to cut my losses I think.
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I traded my 2011 Subaru outback for my Traverse and I also own a 2006 Subaru legacy. Just fyi, subies do burn oil. Both of mine require addition of oil between changes, which I believe is common. My outback developed a leak and had to have the engine essentially rebuilt, under warranty. When I sold it, it was leaking again. I loved my outback, and would have bought another, but the oil leak and use issues were deal breakers for me.
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I can understand that the resale value can be less but it is what it is with the north american vehicles. European vehicules have a better resale value for some but many have their fair share of problem and the parts prices can be astronomical sometimes . Some will run for a very long life without issues but many have their share of troubles also. I can tell the same with our productions. I can tell you that we had some Chevy's Uplanders on the commercial with over 300,000 KM's driven by different drivers with just a few issues. I am not afraid to buy another Traverse even if I have read many issues that peoples on this forum went through because for our situation I need a vehicule that replace a van but with much better confort. If something wrong happens the warranty is there to protect us.

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... I have no regrets owning the Traverse so far with over 10,000 kilometres. No issues at all with the transmission or any electronics.
Just wait until you hit 50,000 miles....I had many issues on my 09 Enclave starting at 8,000 miles. I still like driving it and the space it provides. I was considering buying the new GMC Acadia or possibly another Enclave, but the major transmission issue I had at 73,000 miles requiring it to be rebuilt killed that idea. I'm tired of constantly repairing this vehicle - too much of my time has been wasted. It's really too bad GM's cost accountants cheapen the vehicle so much reliability suffers. GM has nice SUVs, but I think for my next vehicle I will have to look elsewhere (Toyota possibly due to much better reliability).

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