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« on: May 07, 2012, 02:15:00 PM »

I know there is an indicator when you should get this done.
Mine is currently at 38% oil life.
In about a month, we are taking a 9 hr one way road trip.
I dont want to "need" an oil change while I'm gone.  Any ideas on when this should be changed?
When does it typically give you the "CHANGE OIL NOW"? 
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« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2012, 02:31:45 PM »

Many of the earlier model years allowed the OLM (Oil Life Monitor) to go 10000 miles before indicating an oil change was needed.  With the incidents of the timing chain problems in the earlier models (2009 especially) GM issued a TSB (Technical Service Bulletin) for those earlier models to have a new program update done to the vehicle.

This resulted in many of the OLM's now registering only about 5000 miles before indicating an oil change is needed.   Many on these boards change oil around 5000 miles even if the indicator has not come on, and just reset the OLM back to 100% after the oil change.  It is really up to you if you want to change earlier or follow the OLM.  Just remember to check your oil level regularly because a few who waited for the 10000 miles and never checked their oil level found only a quart or two left in the engine, and a build up of sludge.

Here's a discussion about the OLM and when it goes off.  Your model may vary.  I think yours is set up for around 5000 miles.  Based on your 38%, you must have around 3000 miles since it was at 100%?

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2193128
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« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2012, 02:33:52 PM »

I think its about 10% or 5% it starts warning you.
 (ive never gone below 46% on mine- as mine would go 10,000 at 0% roughly). (but I change oil at 5000 miles)

But Do you have any idea of what your estimated % drop per 1% is?

you could roughly calculate how many miles you have left to your oil change... and whether it will pop up on your trip.
(yeah with my log book- I can calculate stuff like this---but Im a nerd when it comes to that stuff)...

or- the better solution would be to- a few days before your trip- get an oil change....
and drive the trip with fresh oil.

with 1 month left- youll drop your % life another 10 points or so...
So I would just change it and feel good.
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« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2012, 04:25:16 PM »

I have no idea when it was changed last ... I called the dealer and he is going to do it free of charge Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2012, 04:32:17 PM »

ok, sounds good that its being done free.

In case you show up to get it done- and they say its not at 0% yet- just tell them youre about to travel 5000 miles round trip....

But once the oil is changed- for the night park on level ground- and the next day pull out the dipstick and check where the oil level is on a fresh fill of oil....
This will give you a good reference spot.

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« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2012, 10:35:27 AM »

ok, sounds good that its being done free.

In case you show up to get it done- and they say its not at 0% yet- just tell them youre about to travel 5000 miles round trip....

But once the oil is changed- for the night park on level ground- and the next day pull out the dipstick and check where the oil level is on a fresh fill of oil....
This will give you a good reference spot.



Great advise, thanks! 
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« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2012, 11:43:37 AM »

When the dealer does your oil change, make sure he uses a Dexos approved oil and the PF63 filter.   Your 2011 model specifically notes these items for use in it.  The Dexos oil will be at least a synthetic blend, if not 100% synthetic.  The oil filter is a larger capacity filter which was upgraded from the PF48 which were used up until the 2010 models.

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« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2012, 11:47:10 AM »

some 2011's left the factory with PF-48's....
which lead to a small bulletin from GM- saying it was OK to use the PF-48.
Some owners were concerned they had PF-48 when the manual said PF-63.....

But they can both be used... The PF-63 is bigger- with more filter media...
though as per UOA- the PF-48 does a good job.

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« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2012, 02:52:05 PM »

On long trips I change the oil before I go and then again when I get home.  Especially If I have been towing the camper.

I figure better to be safe then sorry.!!!
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« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2012, 04:56:59 PM »

some 2011's left the factory with PF-48's....
which lead to a small bulletin from GM- saying it was OK to use the PF-48.
Some owners were concerned they had PF-48 when the manual said PF-63.....

But they can both be used... The PF-63 is bigger- with more filter media...
though as per UOA- the PF-48 does a good job.



I believe the bulletin said  it was OK to use the PF48 from the factory, but the PF63 should be used when the factory filter was replaced at the first oil change?
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« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2012, 05:58:25 PM »

I guess it depends on how you interpret it.

But If I had a 2011/2012--- I would run the PF-48 knowing that it does well- and wouldnt go out of my way to get a PF-63.

heres the wording...

http://www.traverseforum.com/index.php?topic=1739.0
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« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2012, 07:39:40 PM »

Some customers may comment that the oil filter # the engine came from the factory with is not the same # required for service per the owners manual and gm parts catalog. Engine was delivered with AC Delco PF48 and Service Oil Filter is AC Delco PF63

Recommendation/Instructions:
The PF63 filter has the same high quality attributes as the PF48 with but is 22mm longer which will provide an additional 22 mm of media filtration material. There will also be additional filtration protection during high mileage oil change intervals. The PF63 filter is a NEW release for the 2011 model year. These 2011 engines will be built with a break in oil filter of PF48 with service replacement being PF63.


The owner's manual says it is required for service replacement.  It also says it gives additional filtration protection.  While under warranty (powertrain 5 year/100000) I would most definitely use what the owner's manual says is required.

I did use the PF63 on our 2010 while we owned it.  In fact, I still have 2 or 3 in the garage I have to get rid of. 
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« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2012, 08:08:54 PM »

Anybody using Amsoil products here?
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« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2012, 08:48:32 PM »

Anybody using Amsoil products here?

I'm using the Signature Series 5W-30 and the 57045 Wix filter, but I'll be putting the Amsoil filter (Ea018 if I remember correctly) on when I change it next.  They released it between changes for me.
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« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2012, 08:51:35 PM »

I'm using the Signature Series 5W-30 and the 57045 Wix filter, but I'll be putting the Amsoil filter (Ea018 if I remember correctly) on when I change it next.  They released it between changes for me.

That's exactly what I purchased was the sig 5W-30 and EA018......haven't changed it yet, at less than 2,000 miles right now.
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« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2012, 10:43:34 PM »

First Oil Change Blues: 

I bought my Traverse used a few months ago.  It is "supposedly" a 2011 Traverse.  I went to Walmart and the electronic filter chart said it took a Fram PH10575 (or XG10575 or TG10575); Fram's website subsequently said the same thing.  So, I bought the XG10575.  I removed a Delco PF48 installed by the dealer.  Since that matched what's been discussed in this thread, I thought I was home free.  Unfortunately, the XG10575 wouldn't spin on.  I went back to the Fram website and checked the filter for a 2010 Traverse.  It said PH/XG/TG10060.  Of course, the wife was out with my car so I was stuck.  I called her and told her to go buy me a PH10060.  Then I sat around for an hour until she got home.  The PH10060 went on (although it still wasn't easy getting it started.)  Once it started, it spun right on.

I don't know if I'm another victim of GM changing parts in the early/middle/late part of the model year, or what.

 
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« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2012, 12:03:59 AM »

the 2011's came from the factory with either PF-48 or PF63
Many on here have reported the PF48 when new.
THe manual says PF63.

But GM says you can use either one.
The PF63 being a bit longer and thus more filter media.
But in your case- you would have had an easier time just getting the PF-48 at Walmart.
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« Reply #17 on: June 07, 2012, 12:07:19 AM »

I prefer the K&N or Mobil 1 oil filter. Pepboys has a coupon you can print from their website for the K&N filter for $9.
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« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2012, 09:23:29 AM »

2007 through 2012 Lambda's  (which include the 2009 through 2012 Traverse) all will receive the same oil filters. The thread pitch is the same, and the diameter of the threaded tube is the same, and finally, the diameter of the filter plate is the same. The only difference in the filter PF-48 and PF-63 (also the PH10060 & PH10575) is the length of the actual filter, and therefore amount of filter media is greater in the PF-63 or the PH 10575. May have been something wrong with the PH10575 you purchased, or the filter was just a bit tighter (due to lenght) and thefrefore a bit harder to get the threads started. I'll assure you that a PH10575 will work, as I have used one before on our 2010 Traverse.
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« Reply #19 on: June 07, 2012, 09:49:58 PM »

Next oil change, I'll buy another 10060 to be prepard, but try the 10575 again. 
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