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« on: February 09, 2017, 11:45:55 AM »

Maybe this is normal but here goes. Vehicle: Traverse 2010 FWD 2LT. Tires: Nitto CrossTek OEM size 225/65R18 with about 40-45% tread left. I believe they have a bit over 20K miles on them. Tread wear is 620, traction A and temp B.
Tires look great, no curb rash, good luster/color, not abused. Looking at the tread straight on, I see hairline "age" lines/cracks but not deep. Alignment is very good. No issues with ride. I bought this vehicle used in July 2016. Not sure how old the tires are but I'd say installed around 2011 or 2012.

My concern is that when I pull out from a light to turn or up a slight off camber grade, ESPECIALLY in the wet, even under light pedal pressure I get a lot of wheel spin. I can bark the tires anytime I want but I don't do that sort of thing. Dry surfaces produce spin and tire squealing. Mind you, I'm not trying to spin the tires.

What I'm concerned about is good traction. Did GM make the first gear so low that there's a ton of torque going to the wheels therefore making wheel spin easy to produce? Or, are my tires rubber compound so hard that they can't bite in to get longer mileage out of them. Tires are very costly in this size. I mean $$$$$. Any thoughts here? Tire recommendations that are reasonable priced? This vehicle sees very little miles driven now so I don't really need a 60K mile warranty. I prefer a soft, quiet ride however. Many thanks everyone. Help
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« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2017, 12:13:44 PM »

your tires may be old-- rubber hardened.

I cant chirp my tires....
I even tried the other day when it rained...
Traction control didnt even flash its light on the dash.

I could try harder I guess... but-- hard to get wheel slippage.

The Tires I buy- Toyo Versados-
In the link below--  I have pics and price of the Versados, on page 2- I have updated price of the 2nd set of Versados I bought.

Very happy with them. I dont do snow- so cant comment on their snow use.


1st set---
I go to a small shop. Owner and 2 employees.
$175 per tire.

$175 x 4 = $700
CA tax 8.75% = $61.25
Computer balance $40.

$801.25 out the door.




2nd set

Versados- 4x. ($161.70)..........$646.80
Computer balance 4x. ($10).....$40
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                                           $686.80
CA 9% tax.............................$58.20
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Out the door price on tires....... $745

 
TPMS sensors- these were the factory originals with 111,308 miles on them- now 7 yrs old... never an issue with them.
But age wise-- time to replace while the tires are off the rim.

TPMS sensor R/R....................$20

GM TPMS sensors on ebay.......$53  (for all 4)


$818- total for new tires and TPMS sensors.

http://www.traverseforum.com/index.php?topic=2982.0


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2013 Equinox 3.6L -     55,000
2010 Traverse 3.6L-   123,000
2003 Trailblazer 4.2L- 180,000
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« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2017, 12:15:51 PM »

the tires have a date code stamped on them

Look for the  word "DOT"  and numbers letters after it.

Example.
DOT U2LL LMLR 5107    
51    Manufactured during the 51st week of the year
07    Manufactured during 2007


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2010 FWD LT1-Gold Mist Metallic- seats 8.
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« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2017, 12:23:26 PM »

rbarrious: as always, you give me great info on my posts. And I've made plenty. Thanks for your reply and the pics link. I'll look at the date code and also the tires you posted.
Thank you, sir. Cheers
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« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2017, 12:52:43 PM »

glad to help.


The good thing is you have time to shop around. 
If you do change tires- change the TPMS sensors too.

Consider Patronizing small mom and pop shops.

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2010 FWD LT1-Gold Mist Metallic- seats 8.
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2013 Equinox 3.6L -     55,000
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2003 Trailblazer 4.2L- 180,000
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« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2017, 04:26:41 PM »

I have experiences wheel spin many times with both my 14 Acadia and previously owned 09 Traverse. Not trying to spin them but it happens, especially on asphalt and wet roads. Vehicle has a low differential drive ratio (3.16) and a fairly low 1st gear to get 5000 lbs moving and that contributes. Tires also can contribute as rbarrios stated but are only part of the equation.
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« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2017, 04:56:01 PM »

We put Goodyear Triple Tread's on our 2011.  They are rotational-specific.  It SEEMED to help with the wheel spin, but it may have just been that there was new tread again!   Happy
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« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2017, 08:05:41 PM »

the tires have a date code stamped on them

Look for the  word "DOT"  and numbers letters after it.

Example.
DOT U2LL LMLR 5107    
51    Manufactured during the 51st week of the year
07    Manufactured during 2007




Mine were made August 2014. So they aren't old per se. I think one poster on here was correct on the gearing, especially 1st gear to get that much weight up and moving. And I think it moves out rather smartly. But I do have some time to do research and shop around as you suggest. I need to figure out just how many miles are on these tires. I understand the previous owner did all interstate driving which here in SC gets darn hot and maybe contributing to the overall performance of the tires. confused
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« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2017, 08:46:28 AM »

Yes, wheel spin happens on my FWD traverse 2009.  Wet or dry.  You just don't punch it from a stop.  New tires or old.  Doesn't matter.  It's not every time.
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« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2017, 09:17:59 AM »

Same with mine, even with new tires, slightest bit of moisture, especially on a bit of incline, if I give it just a smidgeon too much gas to get going, my 2009 FWD will cause the tires to spin.
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« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2017, 10:18:21 AM »

Add me to the list as well.

Test drove our 2016 when it was dry and didn't notice it until the first rain. I replaced the OEM Duellers at 12,000 miles (still had 12/32" tread ) with Michelin Defender LTXs. That helped a lot but we learned to not accelerate hard with wheels turned or on an incline in the wet. If I happen to try and pass someone at 15 mph in the rain and the trans downshifts, it will spin the tires. We try our best but we must be "those" kind of drivers...

I do average almost 17 mpg around town and 21 on the highway.
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