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« Reply #100 on: November 02, 2010, 12:43:58 PM » |
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FYI - The response I'm still getting is use what is in the manual (which is still contradictory since my 2011 came with a PF48 from the factory).
Well I hope Michelle from Customer Service will provide good customer service i.e. don't tell us to check the manual  .
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« Reply #101 on: November 02, 2010, 01:01:56 PM » |
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Thanks for asking about this - I would love to use the pf-63 if it doesn't void the warranty. Have any of you used or are using a filter magnet? I'm trying to decide if they're worth the $$.
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« Reply #102 on: November 02, 2010, 01:26:52 PM » |
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Well I hope Michelle from Customer Service will provide good customer service i.e. don't tell us to check the manual  . That's where it came from. Someone with a 2010 or older may need to open a case as they want my VIN#, and I already know the answer to what goes on my 2011 model. 
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« Reply #103 on: November 09, 2010, 08:33:04 AM » |
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FYI - WIX now has a 57045 for the 2011's for anyone who likes using WIX filters. It is the longer filter (previously they were listing the 57060).
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« Reply #104 on: November 09, 2010, 05:47:27 PM » |
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That's where it came from.
Disappointing but predictable  .
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« Reply #105 on: November 10, 2010, 07:53:58 AM » |
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Here is the final response from Customer Service on this question (still no answer unfortunately although they did now confirm that a PF48 can be used on a 2011  ): Greetings from Chevrolet Customer Assistance Center!
We truly apologize if we are not able to assist your in regards to the information that you have requested about oil filter. We regret that due to the needed time and more information for us to get the right answers to your inquiry, we compromised the timeliness to address your request.
However, as what we had advised you the last time that we had a phone communication, we are sending some information that we hope might be useful or relevant to the inquiry you sent in your initial email.
As per our research, The PF63 which is the recommended oil filters for the 2011 Chevrolet Traverse. This is the part that will supersede the PF48 which is the current oil filter recommended to be used for the 2009-2010 year model vehicle. However, the PF63 is not yet massively available, and due to the tremendous stock of the PF48 it is possible that this part will be in use currently to supply the need of oil filter even in 2011 vehicle models. Basically, the PF63 is an improved oil filter which is recommended most likely to all 2011 GM year model vehicles.
In your inquiry about inter-changing the use of PF48 for the 2011 and the PF63 for the 2009-2010 models I certainly understand how important for you to know this information. Base on the research we conducted it is ok to use the PF48 to the 2011 vehicles. As per the internal material like the thread it would all be the same. We also recommend continuing the use of this filter for the 2009-2010 year model since there is a sufficient stock available of PF48 and to comply on what is recommended by your owner�s manual
Regarding your question if using the PF48 on your 2011 Chevrolet Traverse would cause any warranty problem, the answer is no basically it is the same material as the PF63 but this oil filter is improved and to be used on the 2011 year model once sufficient supply is available. We also recommend that you consult your local Chevrolet dealership for more information about recommended oil filters.
Again, we apologize if we were not able to respond to your inquiry in a timely manner, but we hope you can still find this information to be useful and address you your inquiries as well.
If you should need to contact us in the future, simply reply to this message or call our Chevrolet Customer Assistance Center at 1-800-222-1020. Customer Relationship Specialists are available Monday through Saturday from 8:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m., Eastern Time.
Again, thank you for contacting Chevrolet.
Sincerely,
The Chevrolet Consumer Support Team
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« Reply #106 on: November 10, 2010, 08:51:25 AM » |
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You just have to love those overseas customer service centers!
I have decided that I will be using the PF63 filter on my 2010 Traverse. If it is being used on some 2011 models, and if it is a direct replacement for the PF48 on those models, I don't see any concerns at all.
I am sure there has been no change to the engines which would require a different oil filter, hence a PF63. I think it is just an improved filter (either by capacity and/or by internal material use/design.
My opinion only.
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« Reply #107 on: November 10, 2010, 08:59:50 AM » |
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Fram has a new filter for the 2011 traverse, its the G10575 a 10,000 mile synthetic fiber filter.
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« Reply #108 on: November 10, 2010, 09:23:54 AM » |
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You just have to love those overseas customer service centers!
I have decided that I will be using the PF63 filter on my 2010 Traverse. If it is being used on some 2011 models, and if it is a direct replacement for the PF48 on those models, I don't see any concerns at all.
I am sure there has been no change to the engines which would require a different oil filter, hence a PF63. I think it is just an improved filter (either by capacity and/or by internal material use/design.
My opinion only.
I share your opinion, I would have no qualms about using a PF63 on a pre 2011 Traverse. Others want to make sure it is officially ok'd by GM before they will use it. I tried to get the official answer, but you see how well that went... 
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« Reply #109 on: November 10, 2010, 12:47:37 PM » |
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I have decided that I will be using the PF63 filter on my 2010 Traverse. If it is being used on some 2011 models, and if it is a direct replacement for the PF48 on those models, I don't see any concerns at all. I dont want to beat this death (too late  ) but it just seems like it would be so easy for GM to let dealers know that any Traverse can use the PF63....so why hasn't such a communique been released? I think it is just an improved filter (either by capacity
It seems much longer than the PF48 so I would have expected there would have been a corresponding change in the total oil capacity (sump + filter) as shown in the manual, say from 5.5 quarts to....5.75? [Maybe this got overlooked in the manual?]
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« Reply #110 on: November 10, 2010, 01:18:31 PM » |
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in the meantime-- if you want to use a high pressure PF-48 here you go.. these are used in the Corvettes mentioned below. High Pressure Oil Filter Grand Sport coupe models equipped with a manual transmission use a dry-sump oiling system, differential cooler and a rear-mounted battery. The dry sump system (RPO Z52) requires a high pressure oil filter. During an oil change, use an Ultraguard™ Gold UPF48R oil filter (part number 12626224). This filter has a higher burst strength, which is required because the oil pump produces greater volume and high system oil pressure. It is the same high pressure oil filter as used on the ZR1 and Z06 models. (Fig.  TIP: The internal components are the same in both the UPF48R and PF48 oil filters. The UPF48R can be used in applications where the PF48 is specified. 
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« Reply #111 on: November 10, 2010, 09:05:41 PM » |
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I never knew they made that type of filter. I just might go with the PF63 if I can find one. I will be doing my next OC this week.
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« Reply #112 on: November 11, 2010, 06:28:29 AM » |
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I just might go with the PF63 if I can find one. I will be doing my next OC this week.
kawazar, if you do it then I'll do it. 
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« Reply #113 on: November 11, 2010, 06:46:28 AM » |
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If I can find one Copperbeech. I will call around today or tomorrow. If I can find one do you want one too? I can mail it to you.
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« Reply #114 on: November 11, 2010, 06:48:13 AM » |
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If I can find one do you want one too? I can mail it to you.
Thanks as always for the offer but I have seen them in my nearby Chevy dealership albeit for an expensive $15  .
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« Reply #115 on: November 11, 2010, 07:14:20 AM » |
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I posted elsewhere that I bought a case of 12 of the PF-63 filters on-line since my dealership did not stock them at the time. There is no way I need a dozen of them. That will last me about 5-6 years.
If anyone wants to buy half of them for about $7 each mailed to your door, let me know.
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« Reply #116 on: November 12, 2010, 01:59:52 PM » |
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We also recommend that you consult your local Chevrolet dealership for more information about recommended oil filters. I always get a kick out of this statement. No two dealers will give you the same answer.
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« Reply #117 on: November 12, 2010, 02:06:26 PM » |
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I always get a kick out of this statement. No two dealers will give you the same answer.
Exactly, the same dealers who want 3K oil changes and for you to ignore the OLM... 
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« Reply #118 on: November 12, 2010, 03:26:35 PM » |
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so I talked to a chevy parts person... and he emailed me this this morning... this is what he said....
"OK. Called GM this morning, and they told me that the PF63 will not replace the PF48. However, the PF48 will work in place of it for the time being untill readily available. So yes, owners should be fine with a PF48, but should try to get the PF63 when they can."
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« Reply #119 on: November 13, 2010, 10:07:17 AM » |
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"OK. Called GM this morning, and they told me that the PF63 will not replace the PF48.
I sure would like to know what they mean by saying that.
Did they mean PF48s will still be produced and PF63s will not replace them ( on the aftermarket sales), or
did they mean PF63s will not replace them as a viable option for improved filtering?
How can a PF63 be called for, but a PF48 is installed from the factory, and a PF63 is to be installed when available and then a statement that a PF63 will not replace a PF48?
I'm still planning to switch to a PF63 on our 2010 unless I hear a conclusive reason why it can not be done. I have about 2 months before the next oil change is due, so maybe things will be sorted out by then.
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