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post #1 of 4 (permalink) Old 02-27-2017, 01:02 PM Thread Starter
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Can someone continue to drive his Chevy traverse with a timing chain issue?

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I own a Chevy traverse 2009 with 181K miles already. Last year when I try to replaced the timing chain, the dealer told me that they couldn't do it because one of the engine cylinders was bad, and as a result my car needed an engine replacement. After spending $4700 on an used engine, the car was given back to me, with a 3 months warranty. I did the job on May of 2016 so the warranty lasted until August 2016. The service advisor at Porter Chevrolet in Delaware told me that I only had 3 months of warranty. When I got the car, the car felt funny, for example for some reason the car will slow down, lets say I was about to take an exit and the car will slow so much that no matter how much you press the accelerator, it will not go more than 10 mph, this will only last for less than 30 seconds, sometimes more, then the car will go back to normal. I explain that to the dealer, I took the car, they try to duplicate the issue and they couldnt. I was told that a purge solonoid was bad and needed replacement, they did and I was still having issues. Later the car did not cause the slow issue anymore, but a check engine light came up, when I inserted my ODBII reader, there were some codes pending so I couldn't check. I spoke to my service advisor again, and in November he told me to bring it, but because of familiy issues I couldn't. I drive back and forth between Ny and Delaware and I was in NY at that time. Now when I took my car last month to the dearer, the service advisor I spoke no longer works there and when they check the car, the codes finally came up, Po008, Po017, Po016, now the dealer wants to charged me $2600 to replace timing chain because when they put the engine in May of last year they did not replaced the timing chain. I try to talk to them but no luck , not even Chevy has help me either, it has been useless talking to them or the dealer. At this point I am frustrated with this car because if I spend another $2600 on this car, that will bring me to almost $7500 in less than a year . I dont know what to do, so my question is, can I drive my car without replacing the timing chain? what are the consequences I can have in the long run? Your help will be greatly appreciated, thanks.
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post #2 of 4 (permalink) Old 02-27-2017, 03:49 PM
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Re: Can someone continue to drive his Chevy traverse with a timing chain issue?

At the very least, if you live in a state that has emission testing, you won't be able to register for new tags until you fix it. And no, you you won't be able to just have somebody the clear the codes to turn the light off temporarily, you will still fail the e-check because the computer will show that. As far as the engine, it won't be running optimally, probably losing power by running in limp mode. I suppose if the chain got badly worn and the valve timing was way off you could have pistons colliding with valves, but I would think the engine would be running very poorly or not at all by then.
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post #3 of 4 (permalink) Old 02-28-2017, 10:32 PM
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Re: Can someone continue to drive his Chevy traverse with a timing chain issue?

From a poster on saturn outlook forum.

A month ago my wife inherited her recently departed. Dads 2007 Outlook. He treated it like one of the family He put 2000 miles on it a year. He bought it used so total milage is just over 100,000. I never got to drive the car until yesterday. With her watching I hoped in and turned the key. It cranked, but it would not start. After a few attempts she tossed me out and tried it her self, with e same results. "What did you do!" She said. It always starts. It seemed to be cranking slowly so I figured we will just jump it. I tried the lugs under the hood and directly to the battery. It didn't really take a charge. Seeing it was the original battery, we replaced it. After charing the battery over night, I tried it this morning. It turns over great, but the amber engine light is on while cranking and when the key is in the run position. Still not firing. I checked for codes using by Android phone and obd2 adapter. It says no faults found, not even pending ones. However she's been driving around with the Anti lock brake and traction lights on for over a week. They appear to be off now. Only the amber engine indicator is glowing. You can see the pickle I am in. I broke my father in laws pride and joy If we had a dog house I doubt she'd let me sleep in it. I apologize for the lengthy post. I am new to Saturn's and I didn't want to miss anything. Please help. If I can provide any more information please just ask. Thank you so much
Forward a few days
..............A lot has happened in the past day. So much that I'm wondering if I should start a new thread. So, my local shop diagnosed my outlook with "stretched" timing chain's. I know from this forum, this is a known issue so I called Saturn listed on the special service
Bulletin. They couldn't have been more helpful. It turns out the bulletin was enforced on my vehicle for two more weeks. I quickly had the outlook moved from my local shop to the GM dealer. They also confirmed the were quite a few bulletins regarding timing chains with my car. The dealer found 2 dead cylinders and asked me if I'd spent the $300 so they could diagnose it was the timing chains. I had to agree. Shortly they called back and said there were bent valves on two cylinders and the entire engine must be replaced. The service giuy then said the bulletin would NOT cover this as it only covered the timing chain and NOT the engine. I argued the point and the dealer said I would need documentation/receipts of every oil change, tune up etc and if at any point I had not used AC delco parts they could refuse to cover the engine. To me its pretty clear the timing chain probably failed and busted the engine. The dealer really pushed me replacing the engine but I need the advice of people on the forum who may have dealt with something like this. I feel like the dealer is looking for a loophole to get out of paying.


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post #4 of 4 (permalink) Old 02-28-2017, 10:54 PM
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Re: Can someone continue to drive his Chevy traverse with a timing chain issue?

Or maybe they use the bad cylinder excuse to get out of their responsibility of doing the right thing, After all the stretched timing chain would probably be the cause of a bent rod or something like that. BTW what were your symptoms on the first engine with the stretched chain, any engine codes, any driveability issues?
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